version sound wrote:After that, I finally got to Kick Out The Jams, which I honestly wasn't expecting to like much, but holy shite, what a great friggin' record. I noticed more than one riff that the Stooges later stole. This leaves me wondering what the fuck happened to them? Did they just run out of material?
I think you could make one solid LP out of the second and third records.
version sound wrote:I don't understand going from free jazz revolutionaries to retro '50s rockers. It just seems so trad and square considering their reputation as proto-punk radicals.
version sound wrote:I don't understand going from free jazz revolutionaries to retro '50s rockers. It just seems so trad and square considering their reputation as proto-punk radicals.
obik wrote:version sound wrote:After that, I finally got to Kick Out The Jams, which I honestly wasn't expecting to like much, but holy shite, what a great friggin' record. I noticed more than one riff that the Stooges later stole. This leaves me wondering what the fuck happened to them? Did they just run out of material?
xxxHunterxxx wrote:obik wrote:version sound wrote:After that, I finally got to Kick Out The Jams, which I honestly wasn't expecting to like much, but holy shite, what a great friggin' record. I noticed more than one riff that the Stooges later stole. This leaves me wondering what the fuck happened to them? Did they just run out of material?
Yes, they ran out of material and called that album "Back In The USA." Luckily they got back on track and managed an entire ellpee's worth of fantastic songs for High Time.
Congrats, Obik. You just earned yourself a lunch, during which I will explain the MC5
scannest wrote:But who will take you to lunch and the explain how the "quote" function works around here?
scannest wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:obik wrote:version sound wrote:After that, I finally got to Kick Out The Jams, which I honestly wasn't expecting to like much, but holy shite, what a great friggin' record. I noticed more than one riff that the Stooges later stole. This leaves me wondering what the fuck happened to them? Did they just run out of material?
Yes, they ran out of material and called that album "Back In The USA." Luckily they got back on track and managed an entire ellpee's worth of fantastic songs for High Time.
Congrats, Obik. You just earned yourself a lunch, during which I will explain the MC5
But who will take you to lunch and the explain how the "quote" function works around here?
xxxHunterxxx wrote:Cut me some slack -- I'm posting from an iPhone.
version sound wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:Cut me some slack -- I'm posting from an iPhone.
DENIED. I'm posting from an Android which is, additionally, a piece of garbage.
obik wrote:version sound wrote:After that, I finally got to Kick Out The Jams, which I honestly wasn't expecting to like much, but holy shite, what a great friggin' record. I noticed more than one riff that the Stooges later stole. This leaves me wondering what the fuck happened to them? Did they just run out of material?
Yes, they ran out of material and called that album "Back In The USA." Luckily they got back on track and managed an entire ellpee's worth of fantastic songs for High Time.I think you could make one solid LP out of the second and third records.
Double LP, with a bonus 45 of the two or three decent songs of Back In The USA.
Didjalissentoo Thunder Express? I actually figgered you'd loathe Kick Out The Jams for the hippydippy factor and jamminess, but might've liked Thunder Express because it tightens up some of that material...
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
obik wrote:version sound wrote:I don't understand going from free jazz revolutionaries to retro '50s rockers. It just seems so trad and square considering their reputation as proto-punk radicals.
Lotsa people blame the two Johns: John Sinclair for getting locked up, and John Landau for "managing" the band into wholesome all-american-rock-n-roll.
Landau, in case you didn't know, is the man who would be responsible for Bruce Springsteen.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:I like the originals on that record. I could happily live without the covers.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
drew wrote:I love all three LP's and even some of the alt. versions on "Babes In Arms" & some of the collections......
"Back in the USA" is great cause the tunes are great but Landau deserved to be beaten for the production. But they screwed themselves by trying to start a Revolutionary Party "The White Panthers" and got the cops looking at everything they did. After Sinclair got arrested it was just a matter of time before it all blew up.
The Sonic Rendevous Band is great too....
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:obik wrote:version sound wrote:After that, I finally got to Kick Out The Jams, which I honestly wasn't expecting to like much, but holy shite, what a great friggin' record. I noticed more than one riff that the Stooges later stole. This leaves me wondering what the fuck happened to them? Did they just run out of material?
Yes, they ran out of material and called that album "Back In The USA." Luckily they got back on track and managed an entire ellpee's worth of fantastic songs for High Time.I think you could make one solid LP out of the second and third records.
Double LP, with a bonus 45 of the two or three decent songs of Back In The USA.
I think High Time is definitely their best album sound-wise (VS is completely right about the guitar one), but Back in the USA is their best material-wise. I mean seriously, obik, "American Ruse" and "Human Being Lawnmower" are incredible.
obik wrote:JGJR wrote:obik wrote:version sound wrote:After that, I finally got to Kick Out The Jams, which I honestly wasn't expecting to like much, but holy shite, what a great friggin' record. I noticed more than one riff that the Stooges later stole. This leaves me wondering what the fuck happened to them? Did they just run out of material?
Yes, they ran out of material and called that album "Back In The USA." Luckily they got back on track and managed an entire ellpee's worth of fantastic songs for High Time.I think you could make one solid LP out of the second and third records.
Double LP, with a bonus 45 of the two or three decent songs of Back In The USA.
I think High Time is definitely their best album sound-wise (VS is completely right about the guitar one), but Back in the USA is their best material-wise. I mean seriously, obik, "American Ruse" and "Human Being Lawnmower" are incredible.
Yeah. And you put those two songs on the bonus 45 that comes with the Kick Out The Jams / High Time double LP. Everything else on Back In The USA is disposable at best, offensive at worst.
Did you not read what I wrote?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:obik wrote:Landau, in case you didn't know, is the man who would be responsible for Bruce Springsteen.
He wasn't "responsible" for Bruce Springsteen as he only came in during the late '70s after Springsteen's was screwed over by his previous manager. Yes, Landau did write the famous "I've seen the future of rock and roll..." line before managing Springsteen, but Springsteen already had 2 albums out before Landau took over.
JGJR wrote:obik wrote:JGJR wrote:
I think High Time is definitely their best album sound-wise (VS is completely right about the guitar one), but Back in the USA is their best material-wise. I mean seriously, obik, "American Ruse" and "Human Being Lawnmower" are incredible.
Yeah. And you put those two songs on the bonus 45 that comes with the Kick Out The Jams / High Time double LP. Everything else on Back In The USA is disposable at best, offensive at worst.
Why do you say offensive, though?
obik wrote:JGJR wrote:obik wrote:JGJR wrote:
I think High Time is definitely their best album sound-wise (VS is completely right about the guitar one), but Back in the USA is their best material-wise. I mean seriously, obik, "American Ruse" and "Human Being Lawnmower" are incredible.
Yeah. And you put those two songs on the bonus 45 that comes with the Kick Out The Jams / High Time double LP. Everything else on Back In The USA is disposable at best, offensive at worst.
Why do you say offensive, though?
Tutti Frutti? Third lamest cover version ever (which is really saying something, given how many shitty covers there've been of that song). It's not just limp and lifeless and lame, it's offensive. It's sacrilegious. It's Kenny G covering Sun Ra.
And Back In The USA? Christ. If covering Little Richard didn't make for an embarrassing enough comparison, they had to drug out and mutilate Chuck Berry. Fuck 'em.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:obik wrote:JGJR wrote:obik wrote:JGJR wrote:
I think High Time is definitely their best album sound-wise (VS is completely right about the guitar one), but Back in the USA is their best material-wise. I mean seriously, obik, "American Ruse" and "Human Being Lawnmower" are incredible.
Yeah. And you put those two songs on the bonus 45 that comes with the Kick Out The Jams / High Time double LP. Everything else on Back In The USA is disposable at best, offensive at worst.
Why do you say offensive, though?
Tutti Frutti? Third lamest cover version ever (which is really saying something, given how many shitty covers there've been of that song). It's not just limp and lifeless and lame, it's offensive. It's sacrilegious. It's Kenny G covering Sun Ra.
And Back In The USA? Christ. If covering Little Richard didn't make for an embarrassing enough comparison, they had to drug out and mutilate Chuck Berry. Fuck 'em.
Totally not what I thought you were gonna say...like I said before, those covers are OK, just a lot less interesting than some of the original material on that album.
version sound wrote:If Hunter thinks BitUSA is good, other than the songs mentioned, he really does need to buy obik lunch and learn a little about the MC5 and music in general.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:version sound wrote:If Hunter thinks BitUSA is good, other than the songs mentioned, he really does need to buy obik lunch and learn a little about the MC5 and music in general.
Seriously? I was in Youth Brigade* and your favorite band is The Kills. There aren't enough lunches in the world to help you.
* For 7 weeks. As an understudy.
version sound wrote:I'm not even quite sure who the Kills are. Are they they same as the Killers?
xxxHunterxxx wrote:*Okay, it was a David Thomas side project. And it lasted for one gig.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
obik wrote:JGJR wrote:obik wrote:JGJR wrote:obik wrote:JGJR wrote:
I think High Time is definitely their best album sound-wise (VS is completely right about the guitar one), but Back in the USA is their best material-wise. I mean seriously, obik, "American Ruse" and "Human Being Lawnmower" are incredible.
Yeah. And you put those two songs on the bonus 45 that comes with the Kick Out The Jams / High Time double LP. Everything else on Back In The USA is disposable at best, offensive at worst.
Why do you say offensive, though?
Tutti Frutti? Third lamest cover version ever (which is really saying something, given how many shitty covers there've been of that song). It's not just limp and lifeless and lame, it's offensive. It's sacrilegious. It's Kenny G covering Sun Ra.
And Back In The USA? Christ. If covering Little Richard didn't make for an embarrassing enough comparison, they had to drug out and mutilate Chuck Berry. Fuck 'em.
Totally not what I thought you were gonna say...like I said before, those covers are OK, just a lot less interesting than some of the original material on that album.
So...what did you think I was going to say?
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:I was talking about the MC5 with a friend of mine a few months ago and he was going on about how potentially offensive a song like "Teenage Lust" could be so I thought maybe you'd say that as well.
MXV wrote:If people are doling out free lunches I will take one!
What album was "Looking at You" on or was it just a single? That's my favorite MC5 song but I heard the Damned version first (and love it), many years before I'd finally get around to picking up any MC5 records.
version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:I was talking about the MC5 with a friend of mine a few months ago and he was going on about how potentially offensive a song like "Teenage Lust" could be so I thought maybe you'd say that as well.
Buy me lunch sometime and I'll explain obik to you.
version sound wrote:MXV wrote:If people are doling out free lunches I will take one!
What album was "Looking at You" on or was it just a single? That's my favorite MC5 song but I heard the Damned version first (and love it), many years before I'd finally get around to picking up any MC5 records.
The amazing version was an early single, but there's a lame re-recorded version on Back in the USA.
obik wrote:version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:I was talking about the MC5 with a friend of mine a few months ago and he was going on about how potentially offensive a song like "Teenage Lust" could be so I thought maybe you'd say that as well.
Buy me lunch sometime and I'll explain obik to you.
Is that offer open to anyone?
version sound wrote:obik wrote:version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:I was talking about the MC5 with a friend of mine a few months ago and he was going on about how potentially offensive a song like "Teenage Lust" could be so I thought maybe you'd say that as well.
Buy me lunch sometime and I'll explain obik to you.
Is that offer open to anyone?
Depends on what's on the table for lunch (pun intended).
MXV wrote:If people are doling out free lunches I will take one!
What album was "Looking at You" on or was it just a single? That's my favorite MC5 song but I heard the Damned version first (and love it), many years before I'd finally get around to picking up any MC5 records.
obik wrote:version sound wrote:obik wrote:version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:I was talking about the MC5 with a friend of mine a few months ago and he was going on about how potentially offensive a song like "Teenage Lust" could be so I thought maybe you'd say that as well.
Buy me lunch sometime and I'll explain obik to you.
Is that offer open to anyone?
Depends on what's on the table for lunch (pun intended).
You can have whatever I leave on the plate.
version sound wrote:obik wrote:version sound wrote:obik wrote:version sound wrote:JGJR wrote:I was talking about the MC5 with a friend of mine a few months ago and he was going on about how potentially offensive a song like "Teenage Lust" could be so I thought maybe you'd say that as well.
Buy me lunch sometime and I'll explain obik to you.
Is that offer open to anyone?
Depends on what's on the table for lunch (pun intended).
You can have whatever I leave on the plate.
You should take me to lunch so I can explain taking people to lunch to you.
JGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:*Okay, it was a David Thomas side project. And it lasted for one gig.
Do tell!
xxxHunterxxx wrote: He's the only non-guitar-playing singer I've encountered who can identify what time signature and key a song is in.
MXV wrote:If people are doling out free lunches I will take one!
What album was "Looking at You" on or was it just a single? That's my favorite MC5 song but I heard the Damned version first (and love it), many years before I'd finally get around to picking up any MC5 records.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:JGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:*Okay, it was a David Thomas side project. And it lasted for one gig.
Do tell!
Not much to tell. It was a one-off gig. We played a bunch of Pere Ubu tunes and some of his solo stuff. We sounded good considering we rehearsed with him once. He's the only non-guitar-playing singer I've encountered who can identify what time signature and key a song is in.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:JGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:*Okay, it was a David Thomas side project. And it lasted for one gig.
Do tell!
Not much to tell. It was a one-off gig. We played a bunch of Pere Ubu tunes and some of his solo stuff. We sounded good considering we rehearsed with him once. He's the only non-guitar-playing singer I've encountered who can identify what time signature and key a song is in.
Uh, for starters, how did you end up playing with him?
obik wrote:JGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:JGJR wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:*Okay, it was a David Thomas side project. And it lasted for one gig.
Do tell!
Not much to tell. It was a one-off gig. We played a bunch of Pere Ubu tunes and some of his solo stuff. We sounded good considering we rehearsed with him once. He's the only non-guitar-playing singer I've encountered who can identify what time signature and key a song is in.
Uh, for starters, how did you end up playing with him?
Charlie Harper lost an entire lineup of the UK Subs to David Thomas in a poker game.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
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