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Riot Fest Toronto -- 2014 Lineup (More TBA)
City and Colour
Metric
The National
Billy Talent
Rise Against
The Flaming Lips
Social Distortion
Death Cab for Cutie
Death From Above 1979
Brand New
Paul Weller
AWOLNATION
Stars
The Head and the Heart
Dropkick Murphys
Die Antwoord
Tokyo Police Club
The New Pornographers
Bring Me the Horizon
Taking Back Sunday
The Afghan Whigs
Alkaline Trio
Glassjaw
Bob Mould
Thurston Moore
Buzzcocks
Clutch
New Found Glory
Circa Survive
Manchester Orchestra
Lucero
Title Fight
Bad Suns
Citizen
Lemuria
Mounties
PUP
Nostalghia
Radkey
Rubblebucket
Pentimento
Broncho
The Hotelier
Laura Stevenson
The Beaches
Somos
Restorations
Say Yes
Seaway
Wounds
Little Big League

Paul Weller is a nice addition, but those headliners are lame.

Other than maybe Thurston Moore, if I was napping on Midge's couch and that fest was going on in the kitchen, I doubt I'd bother to get up.

I'd actually pay to see Shelley and Diggle doing Buzzcocks tunes again, but I'd go see these acts for free:

Paul Weller
The New Pornographers
Bob Mould
Thurston Moore
Clutch

I'm not really a Clutch fan, but I went to school with Neil for a year and remember him being a really good guy. I've always wanted to support his band, but I never actually have supported his band. Oh well.

Die Antwoord? That would be worth it alone.

Other than Weller/Mould/Buzzcocks and DKM this line-up blows big ape chunks-glad I am not missing anything

I met Neil in college too, I remember when the first Clutch single dropped at the college radio station there. Unfortunately, I am also not a big fan.

whatever, mounties are heavy as shit and bring it live. you guys are missing out.

earthdog70 wrote:Other than Weller/Mould/Buzzcocks and DKM this line-up blows big ape chunks-glad I am not missing anything

I met Neil in college too, I remember when the first Clutch single dropped at the college radio station there. Unfortunately, I am also not a big fan.

I would add Rise Against and Social Distortion to your list. And, since I have seen all but Weller at least once already, I don't have to go to this fest.

I am a big Paul Weller fan, but for some reason or another, I have never been able to see him live. I am tempted by this, but I think I would rather take a trip to the UK and see him headline. The new single is decent but not quite as good as the bangers from the last LP.

Lotsa good bands on the Chicago bill, but also lots of shit! Outside of The Cure, I am not sure there is anyone on the bill I have to see that I have not seen at least once already.

Definitely a lot more interesting bands in Chicago but GWAR has to be canceled after Brockie's recent passing. Marky Ramone doing a set w/ Bouncing Souls
And Cerebral Ballzy really seem to get around big gigs. Is there some Hollywood/Millionaire nepotism connection with them like The Strokes have

I wasn't planning on going again this year, but that Chicago line-up is surprisingly good.

john stabb wrote:And Cerebral Ballzy really seem to get around big gigs. Is there some Hollywood/Millionaire nepotism connection with them like The Strokes have

I think one of the members is the son of one of the members of the early '90s rap group Black Sheep, but otherwise dunno. It is interesting, isn't it? They're opening for OFF! here on Friday night.

Riot Fest Toronto: September 6-7
City and Colour, Metric, The National, Billy Talent, Rise Against, The Flaming Lips, Spcial Distortion, Death cab for Cutie, Death from Above 1979, Brand New, Paul Weller, Awolnation, Stars, The Head and the Heart, Dropkick Murphys, Die Antwood, Tokyo Police Club, The New Pornographers, Bring Me The Horizon, Taking Back Sunday, The Afghan Whigs, Alkaline Trio, Glassjaw, Bob Mould, Thurston Moore, Buzzcocks, Clutch, New Found Glory, Circa Survive,Manchester Orchestra, Lucero, Title Fight, Bad Suns, Citizen, Lemuria, Mounties, Pup, Nostalghia, Radkey, Rubblebicket, Pentimento, Broncho, The Hotelier, Laura Stevenson, The Beaches, Somos, Restorations, Say Yes, Seaway, Wounds. Little Big League

Riot Fest Chicago: September 12-14
The Cure, Jane's Addiction, The National, Rise Against, Weexer, The Flaming Lips, Social Distortion, Slater, The Offspring, Wu-Tng Clan, Samhain, Descendents, Tegan and Sara, Metric, Cheap Trick, Pussy Riot]], Patti Smith, Taking Back Sunday, Die Antwood, City and Colour, Paul Weller, The Used, Bring me the Horizon, Nofx, Dropkick Murphys, Gogol Bordello, Of Mice & Men, Mastodon, THe Afghan Whigs, Naked Raygun, Cock Sparrer, Dashboard Confessional, Superchunk, Billy Bragg, Blue Meanies, Lucero, New Found Glory, Saosin with Anthony Green, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, The Murder City Devils, Mudhoney, Failure, Hot Snakes, The Dandy Warhols, Thurston Moore, Circa Survive, The Get Up Kids, Motion City Soundtrack, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, Streetlight Manifesto, Clutch, GWAR, Buzzcocks, Andrew WK, Bouncing Souls, Stiff Little Fingers, Face to Face, Kurt Vile, Marky Ramone with the Bouncing Soul, Wavves

Riot Fest Denver: September 19-21
The Cure, The National, Rise Against, Weezer, Social[[Distortion,
The Flaming Lips, Primus, Slayer, Sublime w/ Rome, Wu-Tang Clan,
TV On The Radio, Descendents, A Day To Remember, NOFX, Die Antwoord,
Dropkick Murpys, Bring Me The Horizon, Gogol Bordello,
Violent Femmes, City and Colour, The Used, Taking Back Sunday,
Manchester Orchestra, New Found Glory, Lucero, Failure, Hot Snakes,
Me First And The Gimme Gimmes, Clutch, Bouncing Souls, Face To Face,
Glassjaw, Buzzcocks, Dum Dum Girls, Bob Mould, Stiff Little Fingers,
All, La Dispute, Mineral, We Came As Romans, The Expendables, 3OH!3
The Menzingers, Big Freedia, The Orwells, Passafire,
Larry And His Flask, Nostalghia, Skaters, In The Valley Below, Dads
Pianos Become The Teeth, I Am The Avalanche, Radkey,
Cerebral Ballzy, Red City Radio, Wounds, The Unlikely Candidates,
Sole And DJ Pain 1, The Bots, Tiny Moving Parts, Plague Vendor, 
My Body Sings Electric

I think the Chicago line-up is not that strong overall. Since I will be checking out The 'Mats a few days before this in Boston I doubt I will make the trip.

Denver would be my choice

Bold = Band I wouldn't mind seeing / Bold + Italics = Band I definitely would check out.

Riot Fest Chicago: September 12-14
The Cure, Jane's Addiction, The National, Rise Against, Weezer, The Flaming Lips, Social Distortion, Slayer, The Offspring, Wu-Tang Clan, Samhain, Descendents, Tegan and Sara, Metric, Cheap Trick, Pussy Riot]], Patti Smith, Taking Back Sunday, Die Antwood, City and Colour, Paul Weller, The Used, Bring me the Horizon, Nofx, Dropkick Murphys, Gogol Bordello, Of Mice & Men, Mastodon, The Afghan Whigs, Naked Raygun, Cock Sparrer, Dashboard Confessional, Superchunk, Billy Bragg, Blue Meanies, Lucero, New Found Glory, Saosin with Anthony Green, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, The Murder City Devils, Mudhoney, Failure, Hot Snakes, The Dandy Warhols, Thurston Moore, Circa Survive, The Get Up Kids, Motion City Soundtrack, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, Streetlight Manifesto, Clutch, GWAR, Buzzcocks, Andrew WK, Bouncing Souls, Stiff Little Fingers, Face to Face, Kurt Vile, Marky Ramone with the Bouncing Souls, Wavves

That's a whole lot of pretty good with some pretty great mixed in.

Now my eyes hurt.

I would see the following. In order:

Buzzcocks
Billy Bragg
Naked Raygun
Paul Weller
Descendents
Cheap Trick
Patti Smith
Superchunk (Is Laura still there? If not, scratch them.)
Clutch (Only because I have nice memories of Neil.)
Pussy Riot (Curiosity)
Samhain (Is this like, Glenn Danzig?)

Of all three line-ups, I'd watch The Cure, Jane's Addiction, Samhain, Thurston Moore, and Dum Dum Girls if they were playing at Fort Reno.

pedro wrote:I would see the following. In order:

Buzzcocks
Billy Bragg
Naked Raygun
Paul Weller
Descendents
Cheap Trick
Patti Smith
Superchunk (Is Laura still there? If not, scratch them.)
Clutch (Only because I have nice memories of Neil.)
Pussy Riot (Curiosity)
Samhain (Is this like, Glenn Danzig?)

No Laura. Jason Narducy is a fine replacement though, I must say.

Samhain is indeed Glenn Danzig, and I'm all about watching that!!

Riot Fest Chicago: September 12-14


The Cure, Jane's Addiction, Rise Against, Social Distortion, The Offspring, Descendents, Nofx, Dropkick Murphys, Naked Raygun, Cock Sparrer, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, Buzzcocks, Bouncing Souls, Stiff Little Fingers, Face to Face

God Damnit:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... t-20140515

Will NR get the Throb Throb line-up back to play this in full?

gregpolard wrote:God Damnit:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... t-20140515

If this means Slayer brings the "wall of blood" out of retirement, I just may have to go.

earthdog70 wrote:Will NR get the Throb Throb line-up back to play this in full?

I wondered that too. Didn't they already do that?

gregpolard wrote:God Damnit:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... t-20140515

Nice. Nothing's Shocking would be the Jane's album I'd want to hear. As for Slayer, aren't we all a little Reigning Blooded out at this point? I'd much rather hear one of the first two.

Also, it's time that we acknowledge that we are only a few years away from the rock'n'roll equivalent of Branson, MO.

In the time allotted DESCENDENTS could easily play all of College and Grow Up as well. Depending on how much coffee they have had, they could also squeeze Bonus Fat in!

Sorry but this is lame. I shouldn't have to go to Chicago to hear "Tonyage" for the first time when seeing Descendents for the past 29 years.

aquaman wrote:Sorry but this is lame. I shouldn't have to go to Chicago to hear "Tonyage" for the first time when seeing Descendents for the past 29 years.

Maybe if you ask Stephen nicely they can squeeze it in to their PRB set. All 56 seconds of it.

scannest wrote:

aquaman wrote:Sorry but this is lame. I shouldn't have to go to Chicago to hear "Tonyage" for the first time when seeing Descendents for the past 29 years.

Maybe if you ask Stephen nicely they can squeeze it in to their PRB set. All 56 seconds of it.

I've been lobbying hard for "Shattered Milo" one more time at PRB and suggested a cover of Teenage Lobotomy would be fun to hear from them.

...however Tempe is soon after Riotfest so maybe it's fresh in their minds for that one. Customer/Tonyage = Greatest show of all time.

gregpolard wrote:

earthdog70 wrote:Will NR get the Throb Throb line-up back to play this in full?

I wondered that too. Didn't they already do that?

No, and also most likely no.

A few Riot Fests ago they did a set where they played Busted at Oz era material and had Santiago on guitar and Camilo on bass. Jim Colao was supposed to play drums but he broke his arm the week of the show so Spicer ended up playing instead.

Here's a look back at the entire history of Riot Fest in Chicago. I put it together as I've shot every single one of them since it started.

http://www.punkvinyl.com/2014/05/15/rio ... ine-years/

I've been pitching for DESCENDENTS to do "Pep Talk" for years. Bill is the holdout and at the Musink Fest Bill took the practical approach before the show and handed me the set list and said ,"OK, what you you suggest we take out in favor of Pep Talk?". Every one I suggested was shot down. If Bill doesn't want to budge he won't.

Chris Shary wrote:I've been pitching for DESCENDENTS to do "Pep Talk" for years. Bill is the holdout and at the Musink Fest Bill took the practical approach before the show and handed me the set list and said ,"OK, what you you suggest we take out in favor of Pep Talk?". Every one I suggested was shot down. If Bill doesn't want to budge he won't.

Good suggestion. What did you suggest that they take out (if you remember)?

Chris Shary wrote:I've been pitching for DESCENDENTS to do "Pep Talk" for years. Bill is the holdout and at the Musink Fest Bill took the practical approach before the show and handed me the set list and said ,"OK, what you you suggest we take out in favor of Pep Talk?". Every one I suggested was shot down. If Bill doesn't want to budge he won't.

Good suggestion. What did you suggest that they take out (if you remember)?

Van was my first suggestion, followed by the All-O-Gistics.

Chris Shary wrote:Van was my first suggestion, followed by the All-O-Gistics.

Bill would rather do those 2 than 'Pep Talk'?! Sheesh.

Well the thing that Bill can not get around is that "Pep Talk" was originally 2 different songs that somehow got merged into one. Bill and the band knows this, and no one else cares, but he considers it a bit of a hack song because of that. They have not played it once since the 80's and I have been lobbying since 96. "Van" and "All-O-Gistics" are fun for the band to play and very much describe who the band is so that's why they win out over a "hacK" song. It sucks, but trust me there is nothing you can do about it. Oh how I've tried. It's become a bit of a comedy routine with me actually.

my friend has been lobbying that ALL play "Alive," which has gotten the attention of Stephen & Karl on FB, but not Bill.

stay tuned for that one, but yeah, I like the idea of "Pep Talk," but yeah Riot Fest is going to get the honor of "Jean Is Dead" which hasn't been played in a LONG TIME.

So Jack Black played a bit of "Jean Is Dead" in Denver when Bill was at a Tenacious D show! No shit. Jack knows his business.

Chris Shary wrote:So Jack Black played a bit of "Jean Is Dead" in Denver when Bill was at a Tenacious D show! No shit. Jack knows his business.

that's awesome! just don't mention to Nat that Jack likes the Lakers. I'm surprised she actually asked him why he roots for them.

She's plucky!

I love Pep Talk.

scannest wrote:Also, it's time that we acknowledge that we are only a few years away from the rock'n'roll equivalent of Branson, MO.

it's already fucking here for the most part. i was just talking about this with some friends of mine. i was saying how i was pretty bored by the fact that bands play a whole album straight through at shows now, mostly to get people to come since no one wants to hear their new shit. i said i would at least like to see a band mix up the album in the setlist,since playing it all the way through is like listening to the record for the 1000th time in your house. my friends said they would rather hear it all the way through live instead of being mixed in. i am seeing saint vitus on saturday and they are playing born too late all the way through, but at least they do it backwards. i mind it less with them since it is like a 30 minute album or something but i would rather just hear stuff from all of the records.

I saw the Posies (who I LOVE) do the Frosting on the Beater in its entirety thing and it made it painfully clear that the great songs have remained in their set since the record was released and the mediocre ones have fallen by the wayside for a reason. Let's be honest - the Descendents do most of the great songs from ...College at every show they've played since the beginning of time. I can live without hearing "Statue of Liberty" and "M 16" live, thank you very much.

The whole album deal is the 2010 version of "unplugged".

All feelings for the new wave of this aside, I had heard that right before "New Day Rising" Husker Du toured, playing the entire album all the way through, then doing older stuff. That my friends is genius!