drew wrote:I haven’t checked this out yet but I will.
Average ep time is an hour & a half? Youth brigade is 3 and a half hours!
I thought the SST podcast guys were a bit long-winded but jeez.....how much info could there possible-bly be? (See what I did there?)
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
Hal wrote:End on End: A PoDCore Journey Through the Entire Dischord Catalog
I am sure many of you have been listening. This podcast hasn't quite won me over yet. I haven't found the hosts commentary all that insightful. It's early in the catalog though. I'd like to hear some of your thoughts.
I just finished episode #9 Youth Brigade Possible ep and I must say, the interview with Danny was the best yet! So much good info and very entertaining. Some complementary mentions of both Midge and Hunter. Check it out.
JGJR wrote:drew wrote:I haven’t checked this out yet but I will.
Average ep time is an hour & a half? Youth brigade is 3 and a half hours!
I thought the SST podcast guys were a bit long-winded but jeez.....how much info could there possible-bly be? (See what I did there?)
I think the length of the episodes as well as just my backlog of other shows that's kept me from listening thus far, but I still wanna check it out at some point.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
the mean wrote:I played in a band with Brian and did a six week tour. Not sure I want to listed to him yammer for 90 minutes.
captain2man wrote:the mean wrote:I played in a band with Brian and did a six week tour. Not sure I want to listed to him yammer for 90 minutes.
Amber Inn?
version sound wrote:I enjoy the interviews, but I listen while I’m working, so I don’t really believe that a podcast can be too long (as long as I’m interested in the content). The one bit of (hopefully) constructive I have would be to limit the discussion about the records between the hosts (though, to be fair, I have not heard the episode you are on). Some fact-based discussion about the releases is interesting, but the extensive song-by-song discussion on the early episodes is a bit much. I’d say that the guys on the SST podcast get the balance about right.
captain2man wrote:So....Brian's original co-host, Aldred, has left the podcast and I have now stepped in to co-host going forward.
Hal wrote:captain2man wrote:So....Brian's original co-host, Aldred, has left the podcast and I have now stepped in to co-host going forward.
I only made it through about the first 30 minutes today...but I can already say that you have improved this podcast 100%. Keep up the great work! I hope you have the opportunity to conduct the interviews. Please give Brian some coffee before each taping and tell him to stop saying "in my opinion" after everything he says
version sound wrote:I’m enjoying it. I didn’t mean to offer corrections, because I don’t think you guys actually got anything wrong, just my insight from being a Dischord nerd for 37 years and counting. IIRC, Stabb talked about “Stepping Stone” on this board. Who knows if it’s true, but that’s what he claimed. I don’t remember if I heard the Stooges thing on Henry’s podcast, or read it in an interview, but the first time Black Flag came to DC, they stayed at Ian’s parents’ house. When they were leaving in the morning Ian and Henry asked what they listened to on the road and Chuck said The Stooges and Black Sabbath, and that was when they first got into The Stooges.
version sound wrote:One more suggestion: go light on the personal opinions. These records mean radically different things to different people depending on when they heard them. Hearing FYH in 1982 and even a few years later, when hardcore had already mutated and proliferated, were 2 very different experiences.
lewdd wrote:Are you guys having a conversation over phone, skype, zoom, etc? I'm trying to understand how these podcasts in general are put together.
captain2man wrote:version sound wrote:Well....I think our personal opinions are a big part of it. I mean - no one needs a podcast to hear info they can just get off the internet. The interviews will be valuable for sure to gain some new insight into a band's history - so that's good.
version sound wrote:captain2man wrote:version sound wrote:Well....I think our personal opinions are a big part of it. I mean - no one needs a podcast to hear info they can just get off the internet. The interviews will be valuable for sure to gain some new insight into a band's history - so that's good.
I guess different people listen to podcasts for different reasons. I have little to no interest in hearing hosts just talk about their personal opinions of a record, regardless of whether I agree or disagree with them, though I won’t lie, hearing people dismiss a song or record I love is a huge turn off to me. An opinion is only worthwhile (to me) to the extent that, if their tastes seem to align with mine, I might be turned on to something new, otherwise, I don’t find them particularly interesting as a passive listening experience. IMO, the interviews are the real draw.
lewdd wrote:How many hours a week do you have to contribute to this podcast? I'm guessing it is more than 5 as you seem to be listening to release you plan to talk about at least once, probably doing some internet research with notes you want to discuss or reading lyric sheet, listening to interviews to determine what you want to discuss about them, etc. before actually having the conversation with the other guy.
lewdd wrote:How many hours a week do you have to contribute to this podcast? I'm guessing it is more than 5 as you seem to be listening to release you plan to talk about at least once, probably doing some internet research with notes you want to discuss or reading lyric sheet, listening to interviews to determine what you want to discuss about them, etc. before actually having the conversation with the other guy.
captain2man wrote:version sound wrote:captain2man wrote:I hope you keep listening & find something entertaining or valuable in it.
version sound wrote:I’m listening right now and (no offense to the other guy), but I already think you’re an upgrade from the previous co-host.
Nerd note: the violin and wheat field covers were stock images offered by the pressing plant (or whoever did the covers). The AT pressing was the first cover they actually designed. Here’s a record I found in the wild that used the violin cover:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:I knew that the wheat field and violin covers were stock photos (see also: Minutemen - The Punch Line) from the pressing plant, but didn't know the XXX one is the first one they designed. Do you happen to know the origin of the (slightly later; mid '80s) blurry photo cover? I'm curious since it's the pressing I've had for a long time.
FlexMyHead wrote:I haven't listened to the podcast (or the SST one) and I don't stream music either, so maybe I really shouldn't comment but OF COURSE you should talk about your own experience with the music. Someone who wants just the facts should go to Wikipedia (haha). Don't agree with that person's opinion? Who cares. It seems like the whole reason for a podcast would be too express/infuse your own experience with the songs/music/releases? Again, I haven't listened, just going on what people have said here. Basically, to me it sounds like a band deciding to do a cover song. You have a skeleton of the idea/song and you can add to it or leave it as is. Some people like it unchanged, some people like to hear your spin on it. I'd rather not have a note by note copy but also not be so different that I can't even tell what the fuck is going on. Sounds like same thing for the podcast, people thought the other dude was long winded and dragged on? Ultimately, do what feels right to you guys! Creating something is always so much harder (and important) than judging it.
captain2man wrote:JGJR wrote:I knew that the wheat field and violin covers were stock photos (see also: Minutemen - The Punch Line) from the pressing plant, but didn't know the XXX one is the first one they designed. Do you happen to know the origin of the (slightly later; mid '80s) blurry photo cover? I'm curious since it's the pressing I've had for a long time.
What was stock about The Punch Line?
The front cover was a D. Boon painting - more accurately - a small portion of a HUGE D. Boon painting. The story as told by Watt is that it basically took up half a wall in a room and he took an outline of a record cover and kept putting it over different parts of it until he got the exact section he wanted. Each color in the painting is supposed to represent one of the guys in the band (although - maybe I'm color blind, but I see four colors on the front cover, but who knows?).
The painting on the backcover is stencil art done by George Hurley.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:version sound wrote:I’m listening right now and (no offense to the other guy), but I already think you’re an upgrade from the previous co-host.
Nerd note: the violin and wheat field covers were stock images offered by the pressing plant (or whoever did the covers). The AT pressing was the first cover they actually designed. Here’s a record I found in the wild that used the violin cover:
I knew that the wheat field and violin covers were stock photos (see also: Minutemen - The Punch Line) from the pressing plant, but didn't know the XXX one is the first one they designed. Do you happen to know the origin of the (slightly later; mid '80s) blurry photo cover? I'm curious since it's the pressing I've had for a long time.
Nico wrote:Tomas Squip took that blurry head picture I believe.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:Yeah, I realize that you came around a bit in the end. I should probably hold my comments until I finish an episode.
The Faith side was somewhat ruined for me by the fact that I heard Subject To Change a couple of years before Faith/Void (which was out of print until 1985) and STJ was (and is) one of my favorite records. That made the Faith side seem like a big step backwards. Honestly, when that side comes up a little short for me, it’s not because I’m comparing it to the other side, it’s because I’m comparing it to the more evolved version of themselves. I still love it, but not nearly as much as STJ.
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