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DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 am
by gregpolard
https://descendents.store/

FinALLy here!

This "new" song is better than any of these last couple 7"s. Stoked!

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:16 am
by lewdd
Thanks for costing me $115!

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:20 am
by lewdd
Potentially 3 rerecorded songs and a cover song on that new album. This is probably going to sound like Milo Goes to College with 18 songs played at 45RPM on the limited edition vinyl. Gotta all be short songs like the new one they posted.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:26 am
by lewdd
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... Y_ouEqCq54

Story about origins of the "new" album. I didn't get thru reading it yet.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:54 am
by Hal
The blue/splatter vinyl is cool, but I'm curious whether Epitaph is going to have other color variants on their site? Hmmm, should I wait to order?

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:56 am
by gregpolard
lewdd wrote:Thanks for costing me $115!


$115? How??? LOL

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:13 am
by JGJR
You guys know if "Glad All Over" is the only cover on here? On 1st glance, I thought "Tired of Being Tired" was a Diodes cover; maybe it is, but retitled. And they re-recorded the 2 tracks from the 1st 7". Wow! I wonder if 9th and Walnut is a Philly reference. There's a Wawa near that intersection LOL.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:16 am
by gregpolard
JGJR wrote:You guys know if "Glad All Over" is the only cover on here? On 1st glance, I thought "Tired of Being Tired" was a Diodes cover; maybe it is, but retitled. And they re-recorded the 2 tracks from the 1st 7". Wow! I wonder if 9th and Walnut is a Philly reference. There's a Wawa near that intersection LOL.


I'm assuming it's a reference to the garage they practiced in in the early days, hence the cover.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:49 am
by scannest
Bill talks about this at length on that "Every SST Release" podcast when they had him as a guest.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:56 am
by FormerLurker
Anyhoo, I heard all this in the Blasting Room back in 2003. Scoop, my ass. :ugeek:

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:04 am
by lewdd
gregpolard wrote:
lewdd wrote:Thanks for costing me $115!


$115? How??? LOL


Two albums, CD, long sleeve and short sleeve t's

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:41 am
by lewdd
Maybe those two ALL albums will finally see the light of day too. Randy, did you hear them too?

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:47 am
by Hal
Hal wrote:The blue/splatter vinyl is cool, but I'm curious whether Epitaph is going to have other color variants on their site? Hmmm, should I wait to order?


Lots of variants popping up now, especially on the UK site.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:53 am
by xxxMidgexxx
I discovered them in the early 80's. Thank me.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:04 pm
by scannest
xxxMidgexxx wrote:I discovered them in the early 80's. Thank me.

Puhleeze, you weren't even the first person to discover them at your Catholic high school. On Staten Island.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:11 pm
by lewdd
Hal wrote:
Hal wrote:The blue/splatter vinyl is cool, but I'm curious whether Epitaph is going to have other color variants on their site? Hmmm, should I wait to order?


Lots of variants popping up now, especially on the UK site.


Something other than the all white version?

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:13 pm
by lewdd
Yep, I see more of them now. I suspect once the 2000 of the limited press one's on the USA site sell out that more variants will pop up on there too. I am not buying all of them this time like I did on the last LP.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:32 pm
by jaybird
FormerLurker wrote:Anyhoo, I heard all this in the Blasting Room back in 2003. Scoop, my ass. :ugeek:



:lol:

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:34 pm
by jaybird

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:43 pm
by lewdd
Apparently there are 7 variations out there as of now.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:00 pm
by gregpolard
I got one version, so I'm good.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:05 pm
by xxxMidgexxx
scannest wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:I discovered them in the early 80's. Thank me.

Puhleeze, you weren't even the first person to discover them at your Catholic high school. On Staten Island.


Hmmm.

Weren't you the guy at your Catholic College that was literally afraid to see Sonic Youth in the mid 80's? :?

("Afraid" in the fearful sense of the word.)

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:10 pm
by SamDBL
jaybird wrote:
FormerLurker wrote:Anyhoo, I heard all this in the Blasting Room back in 2003. Scoop, my ass. :ugeek:



:lol:



:lol:

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:15 pm
by xxxMidgexxx
SamDBL wrote:
jaybird wrote:
FormerLurker wrote:Anyhoo, I heard all this in the Blasting Room back in 2003. Scoop, my ass. :ugeek:


:lol:


:lol:


DAMN! Shit just got REALZ, yo! :shock:

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:38 pm
by scannest
I've never pretended to be anything other than the pussy that I am. You're the guy claiming to have discovered the Descendents. Meanwhile your classmates were going to see them at CB's on the GROW UP tour while you were home listening to RATT in your bedroom.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:54 pm
by xxxMidgexxx
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:55 pm
by SamDBL
scannest wrote:Meanwhile your classmates were going to see them at CB's on the GROW UP tour while you were home listening to RATT in your bedroom.


This was pretty much me. And I’d still put peak-era RATT on at least equal footing with Descendents.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:57 pm
by xxxMidgexxx
SamDBL wrote:
scannest wrote:Meanwhile your classmates were going to see them at CB's on the GROW UP tour while you were home listening to RATT in your bedroom.


This was pretty much me. And I’d still put peak-era RATT on at least equal footing with Descendents.


PS: He failed to mention that Aquaman and I drove to City Gardens on the 'Grow Up' tour with Terre from WFMU/WSIA while he sat in his room listening to his Tom Petty records.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:59 pm
by FormerLurker
lewdd wrote:Maybe those two ALL albums will finally see the light of day too. Randy, did you hear them too?


I did hear the full instrumentALL album while I was there. It was some of the best shit they've ever done. I don't know why they've been sitting on it for 18 years.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:11 pm
by Mayor Bloomberg
xxxMidgexxx wrote:PS: He failed to mention that Aquaman and I drove to City Gardens on the 'Grow Up' tour with Terre from WFMU/WSIA while he sat in his room listening to his Tom Petty records.


I saw RATT at City Garden too! We were at the same show!

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 2:19 pm
by lewdd
FormerLurker wrote:
lewdd wrote:Maybe those two ALL albums will finally see the light of day too. Randy, did you hear them too?


I did hear the full instrumentALL album while I was there. It was some of the best shit they've ever done. I don't know why they've been sitting on it for 18 years.


Those must have been cool experiences.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:22 pm
by scannest
xxxMidgexxx wrote:PS: He failed to mention that Aquaman and I drove to City Gardens on the 'Grow Up' tour with Terre from WFMU/WSIA while he sat in his room listening to his Tom Petty records.

Aquaman confirms that you did tag along with Terre for this show in August, 1985 (6 weeks or so after he first saw them at CBGB's). Luckily you had a friend like TJ to drag you away from your RAVEN records and learn you some good music.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:26 pm
by xxxHunterxxx
I recently wrote a lengthy essay about seeing Black Flag on the My War tour. After I finished reading the final draft, I thought “John Lisa could never have written this because he was home listening to Ratt.”

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:30 pm
by xxxMidgexxx
scannest wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:PS: He failed to mention that Aquaman and I drove to City Gardens on the 'Grow Up' tour with Terre from WFMU/WSIA while he sat in his room listening to his Tom Petty records.

Aquaman confirms that you did tag along with Terre for this show in August, 1985 (6 weeks or so after he first saw them at CBGB's). Luckily you had a friend like TJ to drag you away from your RAVEN records and learn you some good music.


Tag along..? LMAO. That's funny since I was the one who drove. :lol:

And you have some of it right with exception of the small fact that the CBs show was AFTER the City Gardens show. But then again, you wouldn't know. You were asking Ginny to play your Georgia Satellites albums and being afraid of Sonic Youth :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 3:54 pm
by lewdd
xxxHunterxxx wrote:I recently wrote a lengthy essay about seeing Black Flag on the My War tour. After I finished reading the final draft, I thought “John Lisa could never have written this because he was home listening to Ratt.”


Did you end the essay with that last sentence?

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 5:13 pm
by xxxHunterxxx
lewdd wrote:
xxxHunterxxx wrote:I recently wrote a lengthy essay about seeing Black Flag on the My War tour. After I finished reading the final draft, I thought “John Lisa could never have written this because he was home listening to Ratt.”


Did you end the essay with that last sentence?


Sadly, no.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2021 5:30 pm
by scannest
xxxMidgexxx wrote:And you have some of it right with exception of the small fact that the CBs show was AFTER the City Gardens show.

You know, I'll humor you to a point. But that's wrong.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:47 am
by xxxMidgexxx
scannest wrote:
xxxMidgexxx wrote:And you have some of it right with exception of the small fact that the CBs show was AFTER the City Gardens show.

You know, I'll humor you to a point. But that's wrong.


We went to see the City Gardens show BEFORE 'Grow Up' came out. Or at least before it hit the stores in NY. Perhaps there were more shows after CG again at CBs, but TJ bought the album after the City Gardens show. I remember him playing a tape of it in my car and that was after City Gardens. I asked him why Side 2 was a pop album. I was not able to find the record in the stores and then later TJ brought me back signed versions of the first 2 albums when he stayed with Bill. The wiki bio says the album was recorded in April 85, but doesn't give the release date.

If I was a betting man, I'd say that I discovered them. Sure after TJ, but still.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 12:27 pm
by scannest
Okay, so the shows were pre-GROW UP. Doesn't change the fact that he saw them at CB's 6 weeks before the show at City Gardens.

Can we agree this is the end of this particular discussion? No mas, no mas.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 12:51 pm
by lewdd
I had to buy one of these and would love a print of it to frame an hang on the wall in the music room.

https://bifocalmedia.com/Bifocal_Media/ ... shirt.html

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 12:53 pm
by lewdd
Oh, and I am being told there are 10 versions of this LP being released as of right now.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 4:22 pm
by JGJR
scannest wrote:Okay, so the shows were pre-GROW UP. Doesn't change the fact that he saw them at CB's 6 weeks before the show at City Gardens.

Can we agree this is the end of this particular discussion? No mas, no mas.


Your Roberto Duran reference almost makes up for the Pil comment earlier. :lol:

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:27 pm
by jaybird
JGJR wrote:
scannest wrote:Okay, so the shows were pre-GROW UP. Doesn't change the fact that he saw them at CB's 6 weeks before the show at City Gardens.

Can we agree this is the end of this particular discussion? No mas, no mas.


Your Roberto Duran reference almost makes up for the Pil comment earlier. :lol:




Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:18 am
by JGJR
jaybird wrote:
JGJR wrote:
scannest wrote:Okay, so the shows were pre-GROW UP. Doesn't change the fact that he saw them at CB's 6 weeks before the show at City Gardens.

Can we agree this is the end of this particular discussion? No mas, no mas.


Your Roberto Duran reference almost makes up for the Pil comment earlier. :lol:





Nice! I have that record and actually bought it in Canada about 4 years ago. I drove from Winnipeg to a remote region of Ontario (Nestor Falls, it's part of the Canadian Riviera) playing that and other Canadian classics (the Diodes discography CD) that I picked up in Winnipeg.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:28 am
by lewdd
That must have been quite a ride. I hope you did it during the Summer. How many miles and how long did it take you? Maybe start another thread about it because i never heard you mention this trip before on here and I hate to have you blamed for hijacking another thread again :)

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:42 am
by gregpolard
JGJR derail a thread? No way.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:53 am
by JGJR
lewdd wrote:That must have been quite a ride. I hope you did it during the Summer. How many miles and how long did it take you? Maybe start another thread about it because i never heard you mention this trip before on here and I hate to have you blamed for hijacking another thread again :)


I'll respond to this via DM. How about those 'dents? :lol:

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 9:59 am
by scannest
The one tune they've put online is a reminder that these were written by a bunch of teenagers in their first band. I'll buy and listen for historical purposes, but I'm not expecting to be blown away.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:08 am
by JGJR
scannest wrote:The one tune they've put online is a reminder that these were written by a bunch of teenagers in their first band. I'll buy and listen for historical purposes, but I'm not expecting to be blown away.


I haven't listened yet and normally I'm more reserved about these kinds of things (re-recordings of older material), but in this case, I'm actually quite excited about the prospect of 2021 'dents re-recording "Ride the Wild" and "(It's a) Hectic World," for example.

Re: DESCENDENTS SCOOP

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:34 am
by lewdd
scannest wrote:The one tune they've put online is a reminder that these were written by a bunch of teenagers in their first band. I'll buy and listen for historical purposes, but I'm not expecting to be blown away.


I think its going to take me back to when I first heard Milo Goes to College and I expect this record to be great or Bill would not have made it public. It is a bit of a challenge wanting it to be like Milo Goes to College because Milo's voice is certainly different to my ears on the more recent recordings including this one song than it was back then. So, in that sense, it sounds like current Descendents.