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Verbal mother fucking Assault

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:11 pm
by SamDBL
Did I really just read that they are doing a couple of reunion shows? One of the few bands of that era/genre that truly stood the test of time. I would really be bowled over to see this happen. Especially since the singer once told me he’d nevernevernevernevernevereveninamillionyearsevernever sing again or consider any sort of reunion.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:40 pm
by xxxMidgexxx
Hells yes, Slammy. This is "MORE.. than muzak."

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:56 pm
by earthdog70
Tickets for the RI show are on sale now. Since I am playing a show with Rockin Bob that night (in wonderful Woosta :lol: ) I won't be at this one. Incidentally our drummer Bob Furapples will be playing this show as The FU's are opening. Then he will play the evening show with us! :!:

I hope to get tickets to the Cambridge show at the less than lovely Elks Lodge :bag:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:36 am
by FormerLurker
I prefer Verbal Abuse.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:58 am
by SamDBL
FormerLurker wrote:I prefer Verbal Abuse.


I typically use them as an example in conversations about how the hardcore scene of the 80's, despite it's mythical status, became synonymous with horrible music made by people barely trying as an excuse to propel related externalities such as organizing shows, moshing around with your friends in abandoned warehouses, and designing fliers. Sometimes I'll switch it up by using Bad Posture instead of VA. Anyway, I'll admit I barely remember what either of them sound like. And I do have a verbal abuse t shirt.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:05 pm
by FormerLurker
:(

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:13 pm
by SamDBL
Ok. Imma go back and listen today to see if I remembered right.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:17 pm
by FormerLurker
I prefer "Rocks Your Liver" but whatever.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:20 pm
by SamDBL
Two things:
I maintain that the 'music' aspect of bands like these prioritize the actual music part very low on their list of objectives. They seem to not have improved one iota after almost 3 decades. How can someone possibly not get any better in that span of time? The answer is that they don't give a fuck. This is all just a not-very-elaborate scheme to be the center of attention for a few moments.
Secondly, is that the same singer? God damn. Looks like it's been a long, hard ride.





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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:23 pm
by FormerLurker
That can't be Scotty W.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:30 pm
by lewdd
I love that Bad Posture song "GDMFSOB"

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:34 pm
by SamDBL
lewdd wrote:I love that Bad Posture song "GDMFSOB"


I do, too. I also like Verbal Abuse.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:58 pm
by jaybird
SamDBL wrote:
FormerLurker wrote:I prefer Verbal Abuse.


I typically use them as an example in conversations about how the hardcore scene of the 80's, despite it's mythical status, became synonymous with horrible music made by people barely trying as an excuse to propel related externalities such as organizing shows, moshing around with your friends in abandoned warehouses, and designing fliers. Sometimes I'll switch it up by using Bad Posture instead of VA. Anyway, I'll admit I barely remember what either of them sound like. And I do have a verbal abuse t shirt.



:lol:

I do remember liking ...Rocks Your Liver back in the day, but I haven't heard it in probably 30 years.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:02 pm
by the mean
FormerLurker wrote:That can't be Scotty W.

Original vocalist Nicki Sicki has been back in the band for 10 year or so.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:12 pm
by SamDBL
the mean wrote:
FormerLurker wrote:That can't be Scotty W.

Original vocalist Nicki Sicki has been back in the band for 10 year or so.


This is the vocalist I remember. Didn't he, or the band, pull double duty as some other shitty hardcore band at the same time?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:36 pm
by jaybird
SamDBL wrote:Two things:
I maintain that the 'music' aspect of bands like these prioritize the actual music part very low on their list of objectives. They seem to not have improved one iota after almost 3 decades. How can someone possibly not get any better in that span of time? The answer is that they don't give a fuck. This is all just a not-very-elaborate scheme to be the center of attention for a few moments.
Secondly, is that the same singer? God damn. Looks like it's been a long, hard ride.








Comparing the 1988 set to the 2014 one, I'd say they actually got worse.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:29 pm
by the mean
SamDBL wrote:
the mean wrote:
FormerLurker wrote:That can't be Scotty W.

Original vocalist Nicki Sicki has been back in the band for 10 year or so.


This is the vocalist I remember. Didn't he, or the band, pull double duty as some other shitty hardcore band at the same time?

Your answers can likely be found on this website that I do with some friends:
http://www.bandtoband.com/band/verbal-abuse

The most interesting thing about Verbal Abuse is that they released a record with no original members. I saw them just before COVID and they were fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:46 pm
by SamDBL
I think the Code Of Honor connection is what I was thinking of.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:25 pm
by SamDBL
jaybird wrote:
SamDBL wrote:Two things:
I maintain that the 'music' aspect of bands like these prioritize the actual music part very low on their list of objectives. They seem to not have improved one iota after almost 3 decades. How can someone possibly not get any better in that span of time? The answer is that they don't give a fuck. This is all just a not-very-elaborate scheme to be the center of attention for a few moments.
Secondly, is that the same singer? God damn. Looks like it's been a long, hard ride.








Comparing the 1988 set to the 2014 one, I'd say they actually got worse.


Absolutely. And now I’m starting to wonder what the hell/fuck is going on. I remember the self title album (with the popular logo on front). That’s the version that I used to think was cool, but now I think kinda sucks. What I remember of them is much more in line with that shitty reunion clip. I don’t know what the fuck this ‘rocks your liver’ shit is referring to (sounds like an M.O.D. Album)… but the VA in that earlier clip sounds way tighter and more ‘crossover’ than I remember that band being. Is this some kind Doggystyl/TSOL shit where there are radical line up and style changes bouncing back and forth with VA that I missed?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:55 pm
by jaybird
Yeah, I think RYL was their stab at being a party-punk/metal thing like Gang Green, I guess... I never delved any farther into their discography, and I have no clue about whatever lineup changes got them to this record... but I think it's OK for what it is as a product of its time and circumstances... the Elton John cover is fun anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:22 pm
by Marc M
Super stoked on this.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:12 am
by the mean
jaybird wrote:Yeah, I think RYL was their stab at being a party-punk/metal thing like Gang Green, I guess... I never delved any farther into their discography, and I have no clue about whatever lineup changes got them to this record... but I think it's OK for what it is as a product of its time and circumstances... the Elton John cover is fun anyway.

Yeah, by the time they recorded "Rocks Your Liver", original singer and bassist were gone. The next two albums were without the original guitarist and drummer as well. Then they broke up. Got back together (of course) with OG singer and bassist #2.

Code of Honor rules. Verbal Assault is way better than both.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:22 pm
by SamDBL
I’ll tell you what, that last 12” verbal assault did was sooooo good. When they just went total metal groove rock like Quicksand.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:01 pm
by SamDBL
I just remembered I did a cover of verbal abuses ‘disintegration’ at some point. Can’t remember which band, though.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:14 pm
by patient_ot
Maybe Verbal Abuse should have their own thread? Their first album is pretty good early 80s hardcore, but maybe not top tier. Dunno anything after that. I tend to avoid later records by bands that are basically a shell of what they were. Maybe I'm missing out, but I don't care enough about the band to investigate further.

Re: Verbal Assault, I haven't heard the Groove/On stuff in a LONG time but checked out the sample track on BC and it was better than I remembered. Probably not as good as anything on Trial though.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:07 pm
by the mean
patient_ot wrote:Re: Verbal Assault, I haven't heard the Groove/On stuff in a LONG time but checked out the sample track on BC and it was better than I remembered. Probably not as good as anything on Trial though.

Not much is as good as Trial.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:08 pm
by jaybird
Didn't the guitarist from Verbal Assault eventually start some weird sorta hippieish/jam-band/prog rock outfit after Verbal Assault? Rain Like The Sound of Trains or something? I vaguely remember that they were one of the bands at the epicenter of MRR's "if it's not three chord punk/hardcore/garage rock and/or on a major-affiliated label, fuck off" review policy controversy in the early 90s.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:01 pm
by the mean
jaybird wrote:Didn't the guitarist from Verbal Assault eventually start some weird sorta hippieish/jam-band/prog rock outfit after Verbal Assault? Rain Like The Sound of Trains or something? I vaguely remember that they were one of the bands at the epicenter of MRR's "if it's not three chord punk/hardcore/garage rock and/or on a major-affiliated label, fuck off" review policy controversy in the early 90s.

Your memory of the band name is pretty right on:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:32 pm
by matt
the mean wrote:
jaybird wrote:Didn't the guitarist from Verbal Assault eventually start some weird sorta hippieish/jam-band/prog rock outfit after Verbal Assault? Rain Like The Sound of Trains or something? I vaguely remember that they were one of the bands at the epicenter of MRR's "if it's not three chord punk/hardcore/garage rock and/or on a major-affiliated label, fuck off" review policy controversy in the early 90s.

Your memory of the band name is pretty right on:


Pete from VA, Bobby from Soulside, and Dug from Beefeater. I should have liked them more than I did.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pm
by SamDBL
matt wrote:
the mean wrote:
jaybird wrote:Didn't the guitarist from Verbal Assault eventually start some weird sorta hippieish/jam-band/prog rock outfit after Verbal Assault? Rain Like The Sound of Trains or something? I vaguely remember that they were one of the bands at the epicenter of MRR's "if it's not three chord punk/hardcore/garage rock and/or on a major-affiliated label, fuck off" review policy controversy in the early 90s.

Your memory of the band name is pretty right on:


Pete from VA, Bobby from Soulside, and Dug from Beefeater. I should have liked them more than I did.


Yes, I remember that line-up set up some great expectations. But they were pretty fuckin' lame. I don't like much that Bobby Soulside dude is part of, actually. I think his bro's voice and musical output blows his away.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:18 pm
by SamDBL
I remember I did an interview with verbal assault via mail for a zine I did. The questions were insanely stupid. They refused to answer if they were sxe, or not. They mentioned Led Zepplin as a major influence. I was so bummed at the time that they didn't name drop 7 Seconds or Dag or whatever. Now I'm fully on board, or course.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:20 pm
by creature
One or two Verbal Assault guys joined Belly.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:25 pm
by SamDBL
creature wrote:One or two Verbal Assault guys joined Belly.


Yeah, the two bros that were the rhythm section on Trial. My one and only complaint about trial is that the bass is a little too low in the mix.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:28 am
by the mean
SamDBL wrote:
creature wrote:One or two Verbal Assault guys joined Belly.


Yeah, the two bros that were the rhythm section on Trial. My one and only complaint about trial is that the bass is a little too low in the mix.

Those brothers never recorded with VA.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:42 am
by SamDBL
the mean wrote:
SamDBL wrote:
creature wrote:One or two Verbal Assault guys joined Belly.


Yeah, the two bros that were the rhythm section on Trial. My one and only complaint about trial is that the bass is a little too low in the mix.

Those brothers never recorded with VA.


I do remember that, actually. But I swear my copy of Trial had them listed as members with a disclaimer elsewhere that other people actually played on the record.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:50 am
by FormerLurker
Oh, now he remembers.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:00 am
by jaybird
FormerLurker wrote:Oh, now he remembers.



:lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:30 am
by SamDBL
Slightly less embarrassing than my DK gaff.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:10 pm
by xxxMidgexxx
Verbal Assault >>>> Verbal Abuse.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:44 pm
by kel
True story.

Setting: When eBay was young and a super cool nostalgia machine for newly-rich West Coast tech-nerds, instead of the China-knockoff/superstore it is today.

My significant other asked me "When are all these old concert tees going to be tossed out, or donated to Goodwill, or something?"

I was like "Let's see if someone else wants them, I'll put them on that eBay thing!"

Someone bid that old "Trial" Verbal Assault shirt up to $300 bucks. Sold a DN Denko's tour shirt for about the same.

Better believe that was the last my closet saw of any ill-fitting punk memorabilia.


Bonus content 1: I wanted to like Rain Like The Sound Of Trains, but couldn't get into it.

Bonus content 2:

Belly

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQJjUbMrt8w[/youtube]

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:23 am
by Hal
I saw Verbal Assault more than any other band in my high school years. Between '86-90, it seemed like they were playing nearly every weekend somewhere in the tri-state area (MA/CT/RI). Saw them at TT's, UCONN, Lupo's and the Anthrax. Such great memories! Sadly, I committed to other plans on the reunion weekend before it was announced. Hoping they do more in the future!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:42 pm
by earthdog70
Just got the email, New England area shows for next month postponed until 3/22.

Damn you Delta Variant, damn you to hell :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:51 am
by Hal
New dates announced, tix on sale.

3/12 The Met, RI
3/13 Saint Vitus, NYC

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:49 pm
by Knutsen
I liked both bands, but they will never be as good now as they where back then.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:50 pm
by drew
I just bought a ticket @ Saint Vitus in March. Bitter Branches put me over the top

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:44 pm
by captain2man
drew wrote:I just bought a ticket @ Saint Vitus in March. Bitter Branches put me over the top


Ditto. See you there.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:23 pm
by drew
captain2man wrote:
drew wrote:I just bought a ticket @ Saint Vitus in March. Bitter Branches put me over the top


Ditto. See you there.





Cool 8-)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:46 pm
by target
: Verbal mother fucking Assault
Postby Knutsen » Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:49 pm
I liked both bands, but they will never be as good now as they where back then.


Yeah but that’s not exactly the point, is it?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:12 pm
by FlexMyHead
How Rhode Island of him! Rockin' out in a boat shed!


https://www.instagram.com/p/CT7Q7xKMI28 ... _copy_link

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:09 am
by JGJR
FlexMyHead wrote:How Rhode Island of him! Rockin' out in a boat shed!


https://www.instagram.com/p/CT7Q7xKMI28 ... _copy_link


That rules; so glad I clicked on it.