scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:Been a million years since I've heard it, but have always enjoyed it and I don't get why some regard it so negatively.
scannest wrote:JGJR wrote:Been a million years since I've heard it, but have always enjoyed it and I don't get why some regard it so negatively.
Cuz you guys were in short pants at the time. As the follow up to DIRTY it just sounded exhausted and directionless. When you think about the explosion of 'punk rock' into the mainstream that was (still) going on in 1994, it was not the record people wanted or expected at the time. I don't like it much more 25 years on, but with hindsight it sorta capped a certain section of their career. They became a different band with "Washing Machine" - a kind of jammy, more focused experimental-ness that they carried through to their end. Consistently good, but the peaks and valleys kinda flattened out. EJST&NS was the last valley, I guess.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:...listening to it on its own, it's cool.
scannest wrote:gregpolard wrote:...listening to it on its own, it's cool.
You're just saying that to justify that 'Bull in the Heather' t-shirt you think you need.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
scannest wrote:JGJR wrote:Been a million years since I've heard it, but have always enjoyed it and I don't get why some regard it so negatively.
Cuz you guys were in short pants at the time. As the follow up to DIRTY it just sounded exhausted and directionless. When you think about the explosion of 'punk rock' into the mainstream that was (still) going on in 1994, it was not the record people wanted or expected at the time. I don't like it much more 25 years on, but with hindsight it sorta capped a certain section of their career. They became a different band with "Washing Machine" - a kind of jammy, more focused experimental-ness that they carried through to their end. Consistently good, but the peaks and valleys kinda flattened out. EJST&NS was the last valley, I guess.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:It's a shit album. I thought it was their end for sure. And to top it off 'Bull in the Heather' is a mediocre single at best.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
drew wrote:It's SY's worst album. One of their three bad ones. EJST&NS- NYC ghosts & flowers- Murray street.
Even most of the SYR releases are better.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
drew wrote:It's SY's worst album. One of their three bad ones. EJST&NS- NYC ghosts & flowers- Murray street.
Even most of the SYR releases are better.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:I just listened to the first 2.5 songs. I find it no more or less annoying than any other Sonic Youth record.
gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:It's a shit album. I thought it was their end for sure. And to top it off 'Bull in the Heather' is a mediocre single at best.
I'm curious what VS thinks.
Try listening to it on its own without thinking it's a follow up to Dirty. Or don't. I don't care.
JGJR wrote:drew wrote:It's SY's worst album. One of their three bad ones. EJST&NS- NYC ghosts & flowers- Murray street.
Even most of the SYR releases are better.
I really like many of the SYR releases; the wilder, the better, so perhaps take this with a grain of salt, but Murray Street is a top 5 SY album for me for "Rain on Tin" just by itself.
lewdd wrote:Just listened to "Bull in the Heather" for first time since when it probably came out and was on 120 minutes frequently.
Starts off as CCR, then jumps to PJ Harvey fronting Fugazi.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
drew wrote:JGJR wrote:drew wrote:It's SY's worst album. One of their three bad ones. EJST&NS- NYC ghosts & flowers- Murray street.
Even most of the SYR releases are better.
I really like many of the SYR releases; the wilder, the better, so perhaps take this with a grain of salt, but Murray Street is a top 5 SY album for me for "Rain on Tin" just by itself.
Rain On Tin is a great song Just don’t dig that record. I think with Sonic Nurse they “came back” And the shows from then on were always great.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
version sound wrote:I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as bad Sonic Youth.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
gregpolard wrote:lewdd wrote:Just listened to "Bull in the Heather" for first time since when it probably came out and was on 120 minutes frequently.
Starts off as CCR, then jumps to PJ Harvey fronting Fugazi.
This is...something
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
lewdd wrote:I think that "Down by the Water" by PJ Harvey sounds very similar to "Bull in the Heather", and there is a guitar part about 20 seconds into the song that sounds like CCR to me.
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