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Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:54 pm
by version sound
kel wrote:Also edgy: Eric Clapton wasn't the guitar god as purported. Been listening to Hendrix more lately, honest work there.


The only thing Clapton ever did that I liked was the Blues Breakers record. Cream is ok, but never thrilled me all that much. Clapton solo is boring AF. There’s something very clinical about his playing. I guess that shouldn’t be surprising for a white racist playing the music of black people.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:35 pm
by SamDBL
version sound wrote:
kel wrote:Also edgy: Eric Clapton wasn't the guitar god as purported. Been listening to Hendrix more lately, honest work there.


The only thing Clapton ever did that I liked was the Blues Breakers record. Cream is ok, but never thrilled me all that much. Clapton solo is boring AF. There’s something very clinical about his playing. I guess that shouldn’t be surprising for a white racist playing the music of black people.


I haven't heard this. What's evidence of his racism?

Edit: nevermind. I found the article about his drunken rant.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:09 pm
by lewdd
Another article about Clapton recently - https://www.guitarworld.com/news/robert ... ic-clapton

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinion

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:17 pm
by SamDBL
lewdd wrote:Another article about Clapton recently - https://www.guitarworld.com/news/robert ... ic-clapton


This stuff is less compelling to me. Which is why I questioned version’s initial statement. I just assumed that somehow his recent position on vaccine stuff had just been sloppily conflated with racism, somehow. That’s how this seems to go these days. But the 1975 rant, which he has recanted and apologized for, was a clear cut instance of racist sentiment, imo. I have no idea where he stands on those things now beyond him profusely apologizing for it over the last few decades. I guess, similarly to Morrissey, I’m not big enough of a fan or follower to dig any further and make a judgement as to whether he is sincere, or not.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:06 pm
by neutral knieval
lay lady lay is dylans best song.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:11 pm
by neutral knieval
the beach boys had one good song

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:13 pm
by kel
neutral knieval wrote:the beach boys had one good song



Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:12 am
by Knutsen
I only like Can I Say.
Got Wig out at Denkos, Field Day, Foor to the Floor and Majority of One too, but I consider those records not relevant for my musical entertainment.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinion

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 am
by lewdd
SamDBL wrote:
lewdd wrote:Another article about Clapton recently - https://www.guitarworld.com/news/robert ... ic-clapton


This stuff is less compelling to me. Which is why I questioned version’s initial statement. I just assumed that somehow his recent position on vaccine stuff had just been sloppily conflated with racism, somehow. That’s how this seems to go these days. But the 1975 rant, which he has recanted and apologized for, was a clear cut instance of racist sentiment, imo. I have no idea where he stands on those things now beyond him profusely apologizing for it over the last few decades. I guess, similarly to Morrissey, I’m not big enough of a fan or follower to dig any further and make a judgement as to whether he is sincere, or not.


I agree that it is not worth much time. It is concerning when guys who have played Clapton Crossroads festivals numerous times for free to help raise money for Clapton's charities walk away from their friendship with the guy. Seems like there is more to the story that is not in the public domain.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:30 am
by patient_ot
version sound wrote:
kel wrote:Also edgy: Eric Clapton wasn't the guitar god as purported. Been listening to Hendrix more lately, honest work there.


The only thing Clapton ever did that I liked was the Blues Breakers record. Cream is ok, but never thrilled me all that much. Clapton solo is boring AF. There’s something very clinical about his playing. I guess that shouldn’t be surprising for a white racist playing the music of black people.


I like Cream, but not much else Clapton has done.

One of my friends is a big Mayall fan (and blues/blues rock fan in general) and has most of his albums. He sent me a later one from the early 90s and I was pleasantly surprised by it.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:22 am
by lewdd
Mayall - https://www.discogs.com/release/1725080 ... -1965-1974

I would not have thought there are enough fans out there that would want to buy this large of a box set.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:39 am
by target
Don’t like Clapton, but love JJ Cale

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:17 pm
by version sound
patient_ot wrote:One of my friends is a big Mayall fan (and blues/blues rock fan in general) and has most of his albums. He sent me a later one from the early 90s and I was pleasantly surprised by it.


It seems like Mayall was always very good at selecting guys to play with. Besides the record Clapton played on, there were also great ones with Peter Green and Mick Taylor.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:26 pm
by lewdd
target wrote:Don’t like Clapton, but love JJ Cale



Never heard of JJ Cale. Just read about him on wiki. His style sounds intriguing to me. I am going to have to check out his recordings.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:44 pm
by target
Enjoy Lewd — I think there is a good greatest hits out there. Super mellow. Traveling light and I’ll make love to you anytime are favorite tunes and his version of after midnight rules

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:33 pm
by lewdd
I did a quick listen to an anthology of 50 songs on Spotify. I like his guitar playing. Can't say that there was a song that stood out to me that I would want to listen to frequently. I think I may go and start from the beginning of his catalog and work my way forward. Lots of styles there. The obvious ones that covered his songs - Clapton, Skynyrd. I also hear some Dire Straits, Steely Dan, MS Hill Country guitar playing, Memphis Soul Blues, The Band, and probably many others if I listened a little more carefully. I think there may be something there that I am going to get to like.

Re: Unpopular Musical Opinions

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:46 pm
by kel
Knutsen wrote:I only like Can I Say.
Got Wig out at Denkos, Field Day, Foor to the Floor and Majority of One too, but I consider those records not relevant for my musical entertainment.



Whether that's "unpopular" opinion or not, it wouldn't be uncommon: Those are really two completely different vibes.

Grover-muppet scream singing over Minor Threaty angular hardcore vs. smooth chorused and harmonized alt-rock of Field Day and Wig Out.



Four on the Floor was just a throwaway. Fun for a couple songs, but overall felt phoned-in.

Minority of One went even farther south/got preachy/lacked emotion.

(I'm a Field Day & Denko's adherent, don't really care as much for the first album and following ones.)