jaybird wrote:But back to the point at hand... to show I am not entirely the misogynist troglodyte I seem to be in danger of being framed as, I spent the better part of the afternoon on fb arguing in the affirmative that Debbie Harry has perhaps the greatest voice in rock and roll... completely unique, endlessly versatile, with massive popular appeal, chart success and long-term influence to back it up. I trust no one here doubts her feminist bona-fides, or that she is perhaps the supreme example of a bold, confident, trail-blazer as a woman in what was an overwhelmingly male-dominated world, who owned her sexuality and astonishing physical beauty, without making any apologies for either, and had a boatload of natural talent to back it all up and beat the boys at their own game... In short, pretty much everything that the ladies of Bikini Kill could ever have aspired to be, except that they are nowhere near as original or talented... like, not even in the same universe. And Debbie Harry was able to make her mark on popular consciousness without any of the obvious and forced boutique left-wing political grandstanding in her music, even though she almost certainly shares all the same opinions and sensibilities.
Thus be it Resolved: Debby Harry is the real deal, Kathleen Hanna/Toby Vail/Bikini Kill et. al. are barely competent hacks.
Well, I admit you had me until you used Debbie as a cudgel to tear down BK/Kathleen for no good reason. I'm sure she inspired them. The Go-Go's certainly did. Just listen to Reject All American.
All that said, I LOVE Blondie and the 1st 4 albums in particular. I'm especially partial to the debut, Parallel Lines, and Eat to the Beat, though there are great moments after that and on Plastic Letters, too. The first reunion album No Exit was quite good, too; the subsequent ones had diminishing returns, but even then had some bangers.
I think she's still an underrated vocalist and lyricist tbh and that Chris Stein back in the day was an underrated guitarist, too. Obviously, Clem is a monster on drums. I've been fortunate enough to see him play covers in a basement bar with an all-star ban as well as with Blondie a bunch of times, etc. I'm not taking anything away from Debbie here. They wouldn't have become as popular as they are without her, of course, but they really were a true band/collaboration from the onset between her and Chris and had lots of songwriting help from Jimmy (keyboards) and Nigel (bass), especially.
To connect these dots, though, I'll say that I can see a straight line between female pioneers of '70s punk like Patti Smith (another huge favorite of mine), Wayne/Jayne County, Debbie Harry, Poly Styrene (listen to her and then any Riot Grrl group), Pauline Murray, et al. and the '90s stuff.