jaybird wrote:JGJR wrote:jaybird wrote:JGJR wrote:jaybird wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Anyone into Black Flag? I like most of their stuff. I especially enjoyed seeing them on the My War and In My Head tours.
I even have a Black Flag tattoo to commemorate Kira being their best bassist.
I saw the 2nd-to-last date of this tour, at the Nectarine Ballroom in Ann Arbor, MI, June 26th 1986. Before the show, I stood in line behind C'el at the Burger King around the corner from the club. I don't remember what he ordered, but I think I just had a large unsweetened iced tea and a small order of fries.
I don't have a Black flag tattoo, but I agree Kira was their best bassist.
She's got the 10 1/2!
Just chiming in to say whenever that era comes up that
Who's Got the 10 1/2? is one of my favorite live albums ever; it's just the best.
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It's one of two albums (the other being Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death) that at 15/16, really got me heavily into hardcore/punk. I still get all sorts of feels whenever I hear it. I don't even have a copy at the moment, though. I wish the vinyl wasn't missing songs and had been pressed as a double, but what can you do?
It's very much a cassette album for me, though.
Yeah, probably the cassette/album I listened to the most when I was a kid too.... I wish i still had it... I still have some of my old cassettes, but I bum out when i think of how many just got lost/eaten by my tape deck/fucked up over the years. People shit on cassettes these days - and even back then as well - but they were the main medium through which I first experienced most of the bands of that era.
Excellent collection and commentary! I had a few of those myself, like Allroy Saves and Give Me Convenience, but mostly I had dubs of a lot of that stuff in high school (before buying much of it on vinyl and CD as an adult) since I did a lot of tape trading/copying back then and couldn't afford to buy many cassettes or records and I didn't even have a CD player until 1994.
So, yeah, for that reason and for the fact that it was the primary medium on which I discovered and listened to music until I got into punk and thus into vinyl in the early '90s until I bought more and more records and eventually CDs and fewer tapes. Sadly, the only survivors of my '80s and '90s cassette collections (both store-bought and dubs) are my copies of The Damned's Machine Gun Etiquette (late '80s reissue on Emergo/Roadrunner with my friend Jack Rabid's liner notes) and my copy of the Bad Brains' ROIR yellow tape, which my friend Andy gave to me in the hallway between classes during my junior/his senior year or HS.
So where did the rest of it all go? Well at some point in the '90s, I got rid of a bunch of '80s metal/hard rock type stuff (forget how) as well as some of the hardcore demos and other odds and ends I'd collected while I kept others (regret getting rid of some of that stuff, particularly the Ashes demo and some other HC things like Beyond that I had on cassette back then, but I digress). After about another decade of not listening to tapes that much and with the transition to digital/mp3/streaming (which has actually been around since the early '00s; I started using Rhapsody then when it was amazing and kinda like what Spotify is now), I decided to just put a bunch out on my stoop in West Philly and my friend David ended up taking many of them. That also includes a lot of live stuff, particularly Elvis Costello shows, that I had collected in the mid to late '90s on cassette. The store-bought stuff was mostly punk stuff and 120 Minutes type stuff I collected in the early '90s.
Anyway, I still managed to keep a few dozen old tapes over the years and bought some cassette-only releases (and had labels send me a few as well). I put most of that stuff in storage and (again, very long story that I won't go into here) now that stuff is lost, but thankfully I did manage to keep those Damned and Bad Brains tapes here along with a few other more modern things (some Vivian Girls related stuff).
As a result partly of not having very many tapes and driving an old car that still has a deck, I've actually started collecting them again in the last year. Now I have a few dozen and most are relatively new acquisitions. Here's a recent pic of my tape collection. The only player I have besides the car deck is an old analog tape recorder I used to use primarily for interviews until I got a digital one about 9 years ago. Now, it's a Walkman, though I rarely use it. A friend gave me an old Marantz deck recently, but it needs work and I plan to take it in soon (I know a guy in West Philly who can fix anything).
It's been fun rediscovering the passion I once had for this format (and of course some of the music though some of it is stuff I have in other formats, some multiple, but again I digress), but I've also come to accept its limitations as well, like when the Whitesnake tape in question stopped playing/popped out of my car deck as well as the warbling/hissing/wear on a few other used ones. Thankfully, most of the ones I've bought recently are super cheap and play-through. Some even sound great on that deck and probably on headphones, too. I haven't listened to the Bread one yet and the deck in my car unfortunately is broken now, but thankfully the CD tray/player works just fine.
I also definitely have my friend Greg to thank for turning me onto cassette collecting again, even in a limited capacity since I still prefer vinyl and CDs. I now get (again) that it all has its place. And if anyone has the Subculture (pre-Shades Apart) demo or the Ashes "Serenade" tape/demo, holler! Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk.
P.S. I'm also impressed you have Lo-Fi at Society High on cassette; only seen that one on CD; great album. I miss Pete (we were acquaintances/friends in Philly). Did All's "Dot" EP ever come out on cassette (checking Discogs; )? That's my favorite of those EPs they did and maybe my favorite non-Allroy's Revenge release by ALL ever. I remember buying Slip It In on cassette for my 17th birthday and I had Who's Got the 10 1/2? on cassette later on when my initial dubbed copy (with DRI's great Thrash Zone album on the other side) got lost when I was mowing the lawn or raking leaves or doing something in my yard, but didn't have those other BF titles on cassette. I love seeing this stuff.
Oh and my son is really into the Bad Brains tape, the faster songs specifically, and so I bought him a copy of the new reissue on cassette. At first, he was making fun of me for still playing cassettes, but he's now fascinated with that tape in particular. Yay!
Notes: the one between the R.E.M. cassettes and Springsteen cassettes is Shudder to Think's Pony Express Record. The white tape between Jesus Jones and La Sera is Daniel Johnston's Yip Jump Music reissue, which comes from Greg, as do all of the R.E.M. tapes (thanks again) and the Dinosaur Jr (though the tape inside is actually Without a Sound; haven't listened yet). The one at the very end of the 2nd row is a great mix tape from our very own version sound!