SamDBL wrote:Again, there may be some level of artistry involved
SamDBL wrote:No, calling a computer program an instrument does not qualify it as such. It's as morertophorical as saying a recording studio is a musical instrument. No it isn't.
SamDBL wrote:But saying a musical instrument is anything you create music is too broad. You are not playing an instrument in any real sense of the term when you cut and paste stuff around on a computer. As stated, there is an artistic aspect to that. But it is not playing an instrument when you are using protools, or whatever.
SamDBL wrote:It's as morertophorical as saying a recording studio is a musical instrument. No it isn't.
version sound wrote:So, I guess you guys consider singers who don’t play an instrument artistic deadweight?
kel wrote:SamDBL wrote:But saying a musical instrument is anything you create music is too broad. You are not playing an instrument in any real sense of the term when you cut and paste stuff around on a computer. As stated, there is an artistic aspect to that. But it is not playing an instrument when you are using protools, or whatever.
Does your wide brush also paint Industrial genre bands this way?
I'm not terribly familiar in the type, but I think of Ministry, NIN, etc. using samples of factory machine sounds on loops. Those examples probably lend themselves to a spurious comeback, because there was some distorted guitar played over it, but I'm sure there's plenty of Industrial bands that were/are 100% sequenced/"fake" instruments.SamDBL wrote:It's as morertophorical as saying a recording studio is a musical instrument. No it isn't.
I had to look up "moretophorical".
But, weird coincidence, I was just reading an article last night about Zepplin's "Houses of the Holy" where they used that phrase... that Page was expanding his experimental palett by "using the recording studio as a musical instrument." The Beatles were certainly known for using the mixing board, tape loops, etc. as "instruments" in their own right. Sure, I'd counter that some analog traditional instrument signal was fed into the rotating Leslie speaker and backwards-tape looped through an echo machine, but... Shrug.
I must be bored to spar on this subject, because I truly detest rap music and would never argue it's GOOD. I just am open to allowing for use of whatever "instrument" happens to let out someone's artistic expression, whether or not it is plucked, strummed, hit with a stick, input on a keyboard, whistled, blown across a reed, tipped over like a rainstick, or not even touched at all like a theremin.
version sound wrote:So, I guess you guys consider singers who don’t play an instrument artistic deadweight?
version sound wrote:So, I guess you guys consider singers who don’t play an instrument artistic deadweight?
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:This thread is very "old white guy"
jaybird wrote:Three nebbish-y Jews made the greatest hip-hop album of all time.
gregpolard wrote:This thread is very "old white guy"
jaybird wrote:Three nebbish-y Jews made the greatest hip-hop album of all time.
jaybird wrote:gregpolard wrote:This thread is very "old white guy"
This whole board is very "old white guy"... I mean, you're like 40 and probably the youngest person here.
So, yeah. Guilty as charged.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:This thread is very "old white guy"
So??? Do you not like white people??
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:This thread is very "old white guy"
So??? Do you not like white people??
Not really, no.
the mean wrote:I'm ignoring the old white guy complaining..
xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:This thread is very "old white guy"
So??? Do you not like white people??
Not really, no.
Is it....some sort....of self loathing?
PS: Racist much?
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:This thread is very "old white guy"
So??? Do you not like white people??
Not really, no.
Is it....some sort....of self loathing?
PS: Racist much?
Go listen to some hip hop and call me in the morning.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:Its the same old scenario. Once someone says they hate rap, they're automatically a racist. Even though race was nowhere to be found within the topic. The ultra lib PC thugs conveniently add race to the equation.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Its the same old scenario. Once someone says they hate rap, they're automatically a racist. Even though race was nowhere to be found within the topic. The ultra lib PC thugs conveniently add race to the equation.
Who said you were racist? You asked if *I* was lol
xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Its the same old scenario. Once someone says they hate rap, they're automatically a racist. Even though race was nowhere to be found within the topic. The ultra lib PC thugs conveniently add race to the equation.
Who said you were racist? You asked if *I* was lol
LMFAO...WELP...Who exactly were you referring to with this one:
"This thread is very "old white guy"
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
SamDBL wrote:I always find the 'you're old' knee jerk from old guys in these discussions to be just pitiful. I always picture the person that levels it having salt/pepper hair with a baseball hat cocked sideways and a flavor flav clock necklace that skateboards to work typing it. They also say stuff like 'bruh' to their kids at dinner.
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Its the same old scenario. Once someone says they hate rap, they're automatically a racist. Even though race was nowhere to be found within the topic. The ultra lib PC thugs conveniently add race to the equation.
Who said you were racist? You asked if *I* was lol
LMFAO...WELP...Who exactly were you referring to with this one:
"This thread is very "old white guy"
Def read this :
https://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism
xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:gregpolard wrote:xxxMidgexxx wrote:Its the same old scenario. Once someone says they hate rap, they're automatically a racist. Even though race was nowhere to be found within the topic. The ultra lib PC thugs conveniently add race to the equation.
Who said you were racist? You asked if *I* was lol
LMFAO...WELP...Who exactly were you referring to with this one:
"This thread is very "old white guy"
Def read this :
https://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism
LMFAO....
So let me get this straight. You can call someone an 'old white guy' strictly because they don't like rap, and defend yourself by posting a 'reverse racism is not a thing' website even though you can't justify making the ORIGINAL comment in the first place.
Go listen to some Marillion and call me in the morning, Greg. LOL
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
scannest wrote:It's like a filmmaker saying "Spielberg is my idol. Every time I get behind the camera I think about how I can make my film as good as Hook"
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