SamDBL wrote:Aside from the fact that the hairy man tits cover has always made me uneasy, I believe it's the old boy's peak, for me.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
jaybird wrote:All his Misfits stuff is fantastic. Love pretty much every single thing he did with that band. Not as big of a Samhain fan, but they have their moments. 1st Danzig record is the last truly great record he made, though II-IV are also good, just not as great as Danzig I...
jaybird wrote:All his Misfits stuff is fantastic. Love pretty much every single thing he did with that band. Not as big of a Samhain fan, but they have their moments. 1st Danzig record is the last truly great record he made, though II-IV are also good, just not as great as Danzig I... he's basically been a walking, breathing human punchline since 1995 or so. Still though, just the Misfits records alone should be enough to get him into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... not that it matters, but the fact that he/the Misfits haven't been nominated just underscores how lame that whole institution really is.
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FormerLurker wrote:It's got some great songs, but some goofy-ass songs that really stick out. (Killer Wolf, I'm the One, ....)
SamDBL wrote:FormerLurker wrote:It's got some great songs, but some goofy-ass songs that really stick out. (Killer Wolf, I'm the One, ....)
If you are a true ‘zig fan, you have come to accept and enjoy the goofy-ass shit as part of the experience.
FormerLurker wrote:I think he originally had a great idea, but then he just got so far up his own ass with his schtick that it took on an embarrassing life of its own.
SamDBL wrote:I do struggle trying to decide whether he is pretty intelligent, or a blithering idiot. As basic as the Misfits and Samhain were, the over the top horror movie imagery was quite unique and brilliant. The early Danzig solo albums were quite a shock to the system for me. But it turns out that, yet again, he was just ahead of the curve on his trajectory. But then the millisecond Rick Rubin isn’t involved, the music takes a nose dive. Then, his band splits, and it’s just gone from bad to worse. The last several albums are completely unlistenable. I was always under the impression that Danzig wrote all the songs and called all the shots. But this stream of events leads me to believe otherwise. And that either producer or band had more to do with it that’s the man the band is named after.
And then there are his other ventures… the movies and the comics. I don’t know that there has ever been someone so seemingly in tune with the esoteric stuff that I love. Yet, his movies and comics are laughable. Usually the concepts and the art is stellar… but the dialog sounds and reads like a not very smart child wrote it. He seems to be utterly clueless about how any of these mediums work.
jaybird wrote:SamDBL wrote:I do struggle trying to decide whether he is pretty intelligent, or a blithering idiot. As basic as the Misfits and Samhain were, the over the top horror movie imagery was quite unique and brilliant. The early Danzig solo albums were quite a shock to the system for me. But it turns out that, yet again, he was just ahead of the curve on his trajectory. But then the millisecond Rick Rubin isn’t involved, the music takes a nose dive. Then, his band splits, and it’s just gone from bad to worse. The last several albums are completely unlistenable. I was always under the impression that Danzig wrote all the songs and called all the shots. But this stream of events leads me to believe otherwise. And that either producer or band had more to do with it that’s the man the band is named after.
And then there are his other ventures… the movies and the comics. I don’t know that there has ever been someone so seemingly in tune with the esoteric stuff that I love. Yet, his movies and comics are laughable. Usually the concepts and the art is stellar… but the dialog sounds and reads like a not very smart child wrote it. He seems to be utterly clueless about how any of these mediums work.
He seems to have no sense of humor about any of it... most of the other artists who work in the whole shock-rock/theatrical end of the spectrum like Alice Cooper, or KISS, or even Marilyn Manson all seem to have a healthy understanding of the corny ridiculousness of alot of the imagery and concepts they use... Danzig seems like the one guy who's not really in on the whole joke, and thinks it's all very serious and real.
SamDBL wrote:Aside from the fact that the hairy man tits cover has always made me uneasy, I believe it's the old boy's peak, for me.
lewdd wrote:Speaking of Danzig, I remember several years ago when ALL was playing Riot Fest. Scott Reynolds came on stage with a wig imitating Danzig. Danzig was playing at another venue that same evening. Apparently, he wasn't too happy when he heard about Scott's impression.
jaybird wrote:lewdd wrote:Speaking of Danzig, I remember several years ago when ALL was playing Riot Fest. Scott Reynolds came on stage with a wig imitating Danzig. Danzig was playing at another venue that same evening. Apparently, he wasn't too happy when he heard about Scott's impression.
Oh, yeah, it was great.. there are pics floating around... he had the fishnet shirt, and a big goofy cardboard Danzig-skull belt buckle, but with the spiral ALLroy eyes.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
SamDBL wrote:jaybird wrote:All his Misfits stuff is fantastic. Love pretty much every single thing he did with that band. Not as big of a Samhain fan, but they have their moments. 1st Danzig record is the last truly great record he made, though II-IV are also good, just not as great as Danzig I... he's basically been a walking, breathing human punchline since 1995 or so. Still though, just the Misfits records alone should be enough to get him into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... not that it matters, but the fact that he/the Misfits haven't been nominated just underscores how lame that whole institution really is.
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That is a great point about him/them being over looked by the RnRHOF. For some reason it never occurred to me, but yeah... they should definitely be in there by any metric. It really is a garbage organization. They've proven that over and over again. It has the vibe of the last place that music critics, the same blow hards that continually wrote off artists like Van Halen and Led Zepplin while praising bullshit like Madonna, get to call the shots. Fuck them. I guarantee Barbara Streisand will be in the HOF before the Misfits.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:jaybird wrote:lewdd wrote:Speaking of Danzig, I remember several years ago when ALL was playing Riot Fest. Scott Reynolds came on stage with a wig imitating Danzig. Danzig was playing at another venue that same evening. Apparently, he wasn't too happy when he heard about Scott's impression.
Oh, yeah, it was great.. there are pics floating around... he had the fishnet shirt, and a big goofy cardboard Danzig-skull belt buckle, but with the spiral ALLroy eyes.
When/where was this? I don't think this happened at the Riot Fest East afterparty in 2011 at the TLA in Philly when ALL headlined (they were great that night).
lewdd wrote:jgjr that was at bottom lounge in Chicago
hunter thanks for sharing that video. that was a great show and weekend
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
SamDBL wrote:That’s super interesting about Stabb and Danzig II. I assume he hated all things misfits related, for some reason. The weird pronunciation of the words makes for some funny misheard lyrics that I can’t I hear. In, Bodies, for instance, I think he says something about slaying a dark old soul… but I continually hear it as ‘dog gone soul’.
SamDBL wrote:Iwas at that Danzig/ALL thing, so I guess dbl must’ve played it. The bummer for me was that I kept hearing everyone backstage whispering something about Danzig, and a surprise of some sort. I had really gotten my hope up that he was going to jump on stage with all and do some bullshit. I think I was scrambling for something to get signed. The Scott thing was funny. But I was severely let down. That’s super interesting about Stabb and Danzig II. I assume he hated all things misfits related, for some reason. The weird pronunciation of the words makes for some funny misheard lyrics that I can’t I hear. In, Bodies, for instance, I think he says something about slaying a dark old soul… but I continually hear it as ‘dog gone soul’.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:SamDBL wrote:That’s super interesting about Stabb and Danzig II. I assume he hated all things misfits related, for some reason. The weird pronunciation of the words makes for some funny misheard lyrics that I can’t I hear. In, Bodies, for instance, I think he says something about slaying a dark old soul… but I continually hear it as ‘dog gone soul’.
Yeah, he thought the Misfits were pretty silly. But he loved Glenn’s voice.
jaybird wrote:SamDBL wrote:Iwas at that Danzig/ALL thing, so I guess dbl must’ve played it. The bummer for me was that I kept hearing everyone backstage whispering something about Danzig, and a surprise of some sort. I had really gotten my hope up that he was going to jump on stage with all and do some bullshit. I think I was scrambling for something to get signed. The Scott thing was funny. But I was severely let down. That’s super interesting about Stabb and Danzig II. I assume he hated all things misfits related, for some reason. The weird pronunciation of the words makes for some funny misheard lyrics that I can’t I hear. In, Bodies, for instance, I think he says something about slaying a dark old soul… but I continually hear it as ‘dog gone soul’.
LOL @ the scenario where Glenn is a secret ALL fan and really wants to sing "Sugar & Spice" or some shit.
FormerLurker wrote:jaybird wrote:SamDBL wrote:Iwas at that Danzig/ALL thing, so I guess dbl must’ve played it. The bummer for me was that I kept hearing everyone backstage whispering something about Danzig, and a surprise of some sort. I had really gotten my hope up that he was going to jump on stage with all and do some bullshit. I think I was scrambling for something to get signed. The Scott thing was funny. But I was severely let down. That’s super interesting about Stabb and Danzig II. I assume he hated all things misfits related, for some reason. The weird pronunciation of the words makes for some funny misheard lyrics that I can’t I hear. In, Bodies, for instance, I think he says something about slaying a dark old soul… but I continually hear it as ‘dog gone soul’.
LOL @ the scenario where Glenn is a secret ALL fan and really wants to sing "Sugar & Spice" or some shit.
*whisper part*
xxxHunterxxx wrote:This thread reminded me of another funny Stabb story. John was penpals with Pushead in the early 80s. He asked Pushead to do the cover art for a GI record (I think it was Boycott Stabb) and Pushead graciously agreed. So he sends John the art and, of course, it’s got skulls and corpses all over it. John, who thought the horror punk thing was goofy, sends it back and politely tells Pushead that he’s a really talented artist and should stop wasting his time drawing silly skulls. That was the end of their relationship.
jaybird wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:SamDBL wrote:That’s super interesting about Stabb and Danzig II. I assume he hated all things misfits related, for some reason. The weird pronunciation of the words makes for some funny misheard lyrics that I can’t I hear. In, Bodies, for instance, I think he says something about slaying a dark old soul… but I continually hear it as ‘dog gone soul’.
Yeah, he thought the Misfits were pretty silly. But he loved Glenn’s voice.
I can see this... Stabb also kinda had that whole deep-voiced crooner thing going on.
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
JGJR wrote:jaybird wrote:xxxHunterxxx wrote:SamDBL wrote:That’s super interesting about Stabb and Danzig II. I assume he hated all things misfits related, for some reason. The weird pronunciation of the words makes for some funny misheard lyrics that I can’t I hear. In, Bodies, for instance, I think he says something about slaying a dark old soul… but I continually hear it as ‘dog gone soul’.
Yeah, he thought the Misfits were pretty silly. But he loved Glenn’s voice.
I can see this... Stabb also kinda had that whole deep-voiced crooner thing going on.
And given the very prominent influence of early '80s Damned on later GI, I always assumed it was the influence of Dave Vanian, but yeah, I can see that, too.
SamDBL wrote: them playing Misfits songs.
xxxHunterxxx wrote:He also loved Richard Butler. You can hear him doing his Butler impression right before the music kicks in on “World, You and I.”
xxxMidgexxx wrote:But perhaps I just love drone stuff in general.
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